On Sunday’s Chris Matthews Show panel, New York columnist John Heilemann debated the country’s long road back to recovery, whether Afghanistan would survive a pullout of U.S. military forces, and the seemingly inevitable movement of some former Newt Gingrich staffers to Team Perry, even though the Texas guv has yet to formally announce. “With the implosion of Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign,” he said. “We are about to see the rise of Rick Perry … who is going to claim back a lot of the senior advisers who were working for Newt Gingrich.” Take a look.