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Will the Sun Come Out?

The city’s fall economic forecast, from gloomy to … maybe not.

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Although the national recession will celebrate its second birthday in December, the city’s own recession will be only a year old. And while the Federal Reserve has declared a “leveling out” of financial problems and is winding down certain programs to prop up Wall Street (which is profitable again), conditions in New York continue to get worse: July’s unemployment was 9.6 percent, up from 9.4 in June. We asked five who know the city’s economy to look ahead.

Those Clouds Still Look Ominous
“There are significant lags between recovery in the economy and fiscal recovery for city and state governments. I lived through it back in the late eighties and early nineties, when we basically went through three years of budget hell. The economy wasn’t as bad then as it is this time. The stimulus has postponed and, in some ways, diminished the initial impact, and that may mean that the damage will be proportionally less. But it’s going to be probably two more years for both the city and the state. The city’s reserves may begin to run a little dry by next year. And the state just doesn’t have the capacity to deal with its problems as well, in part because of the political problems it has. There are not a lot of tools available.”


Dall Forsythe
Chairman, Fund for the City of New York; former state budget director; professor, NYU Wagner School of Public Service

The Storm’s Not Over Yet
“We’re expecting the city to lose a total of 250,000 jobs, and we’ve lost about half of that at this point. We are anticipating that we will continue to shed jobs through the second quarter of 2010. We’ve seen the pace of those losses moderate over the last quarter, but we’re still losing jobs. The financial sector is continuing to lose jobs, and because that remains the main driver for the local economy, that means nearly all of the other sectors of the local economy are shedding jobs as well. Credit remains very tight, and there’s a huge glut of unsold apartments, and that’s causing construction employment to plummet.”


Ronnie Lowenstein
Director, New York City Independent Budget Office

Comparatively Temperate
“New York City so far has suffered considerably less in this recession than the rest of the U.S. New York usually enters a recession earlier, sustains steeper job losses, and takes longer to emerge, but so far, this has not been the case. Since peaking in August 2008, New York City has lost 110,000 jobs, or 2.9 percent; since its peak in December 2007, the U.S. has lost 6.46 million jobs, or 4.7 percent. While the rate of job losses in New York has slowed in each of the last three quarters, I think it is safe to say that New York will lose 200,000 or more jobs before the recession is over. So, yes, I do think we will have at least five more months of job losses, but the rate of decline will hold steady or even decline. In the end, New York will have suffered less than the U.S.—and again, this is such a rarity.”


Barbara Byrne Denham
Chief economist, Eastern Consolidated


Fall Preview 2009

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